So Elias was a Greek name for Elijah. So the Spirit of Elias and Elijah are the same reference. Jesus said John the Baptist was a spirit of Elias or Elijah to prepare the way for him to come. And said he was one prophesied to come in that sense. But Malachi 4 seems to say Elijah himself will come back shortly before the second coming.
Abraham was before Moses and Elijah. Though Moses and Elijah, are similar prophetic spirit of Elijah types, they did not get a new covenant for their people. They did not redeem a Zion. They did not have the restoration of Holy Order held among Abraham and sons.
The prophecy in Malachi says Elijah will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children first. Which is likely what the Lord was referring to about John being the spirit of Elias to come.
Malachi still talks about Elijah himself coming in the last days, like there is a 2nd part he must do. To turn the hearts of the children, or those wheat, those newly called Covenant people, to help them get back to the fullness of the gospel and priesthood...To turn our hearts/minds/works back to the works of our patriarchal fathers who held those things on varying levels.
Those are doing the works of Abraham.
Abraham not only had returned to the fullness of the Gospel, or having the presence of YHWH (and as Elijah said in his day, that does start as a still small voice inside of you and doesn't need to be dramatic like what Moses experienced). The fullness of the Gospel is having the word/presence of Yahweh among yourself or at least among the Covenant group called to redeem the fullness of the gospel and later the fullness of priesthood.
The fullness of the priesthood, the works of Abraham, it being called that because him and his sons and grandsons for five generations held that last... And can only come again after the people have the fullness of the gospel among them. In word and deed. In a Zion.
You have to have the connection before you get back to the Patriarchal Holy Order last held by or at least blessed to hold jointly among Ephraim and Manasseh. Manassah the oldest, but at some point, seed of Ephraim is to help Manassah become Righteous to take his role. We need fullness of Gospel, before we can turn our hearts (minds and works) back to the fathers and the priesthood Order that they held.
Joseph Smith was a spirit of Elias or Elijah. He obtained this fullness back to himself. But the church failed to receive the fullness from that Elijah type prophet. A prophet getting back into the works of Abraham. This is why the Lord said the church had to finish the Nauvoo temple to get the fullness of the gospel back to his people inside of it. Yehweh needed a place to return it. They had lost their kirtland Temple. The purpose was to get back to the fullness of the Gospel there. The finishing of the nauvoo temple was their last chance by faith and sacrifice, to show what is most important to them, to get back to the fullness of the gospel, by finishing that temple in time. It failed. The people were rejected. And the Elijah/Elias type prophet indeed chose to leave the people. Like a Lamb to the slaughter.
Some claim to be God's covenant people in our day (chuch)... if that were true, you would be doing some of the works of Abraham at least. Because in order to actually become a covenant people, they have to get back to doing at least in part, the things/works of Abraham. The same things he did.
Therefore, The works of Abraham, heading back towards the fullness of the Gospel first, is necessary before becoming a covenant people with a fullness of gospel again in the last days. And the fullness of the gospel held among Abraham/and 5 generations and other prophets (at least in themselves, maybe not in their people), is a prerequisite to the fullness of priesthood being restored. Something Elijah is likely going to come and be a part of, among the people himself in Zion.
But it takes Elijah types to redeem a Zion. Before he can return. Elijah types return to the presence of God or the fullness of the gospel. Many here probably still personally hold Aaronic priesthood from the church. It is enough to get back to the fullness.
These are the wheat in the last days. Who come out from among tares.
LOSS OF PRIESTHOOD, BRINGS IDOLATRY VIA CO-DEPENDANCY ON PRIESTS
When the people lose the fullness of the gospel (the presence of the word and closeness of Yahweh) individually in themselves, it's because they don't have those Elijah type connections with God themselves. They don't have that still small voice. They don't have the Lord talking to them. Both Moses and Joseph Smith taught that their people are supposed to become prophets like they were. They want them all to have what they had. Fullness of Gospel.
They turn to idolatry. Because there's nothing left for them to rely on. Like in the days of Moses. Moses was teaching them to become prophets themselves. The people wanted Moses to do that stuff, and they wanted a priesthood organization through Aaron. That was much easier. It was something they can see and hold on to. And they continued further and further into error, until they lost sight of the fullness of the Gospel Moses was trying to teach them. That is the fullness of the gospel that they rejected. When people are not doing those things themselves, having their own experiences, they become codependent on priests. Their leaders. But when their leaders are also not doing it, then the blind are leading the blind.
The book of Mormon teaches us all, to not be codependent on the arms of flesh in the last days because that same book also prophesied of our group failure when the light began to come forth. When the fullness of the gospel began to come forth with Joseph Smith. The Lord knew what would happen. It was already prophesied in a book of Mormon and Joseph Smith didn't yet understand that at the time. But later I'm sure it was made clear to him.
The same loss and rejection of full gospel and Doctrine of Yehweh of Moses's people, so have the LDS rejected since Kirtland and Nauvoo. They like the people of Moses had a chance to get the fullness of the gospel and the fullness of the priesthood before. They were being given a chance to redeem a Zion in their day. But the Lord knew. Because failure and loss is the usual course of mankind when great things begin to come forth among them again.
Joseph Smith was an Elijah type. He was a Moses type to restore the fullness of the gospel back to the earth. To try to turn people back to the works of Abraham. Like Moses was trying to do in his day. If the people would have accepted it. You have to have a covenant people already connecting with Yahweh, the people called and elected by Yahweh in person, in fact, to redeem the fullness of the gospel, a Zion and eventually fullness of priesthood.
It's all one great chiasm. With Yeshua coming in the center of it all.
The garden of Eden is a state of the Earth where the Son and the father walk with man. Or Adam.
The fullness of the gospel existed because the presence of God existed there. In its fullness. And then fullness of the priesthood is the patriarchal priesthood or the holy order that was also held by Adam and son descendants.
And then a fall. Apostasy from those things.
Abraham was able to do get back to the fullness gospel and then the fullness of the priesthood. The works of Abraham. Then loss. Moses was trying to turn his people back to the works of Abraham. It failed.
The Hebrews and the Israelites lose those opportunities to have it.
Christ comes at the center. He again was teaching the people to get back to the fullness of the gospel. But they would not, just like in older times. If they would do that, they would get back to fullness of priesthood. His apostles were getting back to the fullness of the gospel.
The cycle reverses again.
After the apostles, was another fall.
Christian apostasy. Largely begun by the king and priest of Rome. They were actually killing the people and destroying their records and their culture, who were still trying to hold on to the fullness of the gospel. trying to get back to it. After all they want to be the corrupt kings and priests for power and control. To make themselves demigods over slavish people.
Joseph Smith days: The fullness of the gospel was that light beginning to shine forth. A chance for the people to become a covenant people. The temple was the bridge or the place to help his people get back to those things. The Lord said if they fail, they and their work for the dead would be rejected A greater apostacy occurs. Greater than anything before, because we have the most sacred texts, showing us exactly what not to do.
But then repentant (Repentance is specific, in it's full of sense has special connotation. It represents going back to the fullness and presence of Yahweh) remnants, come out from under condemnation, realize group failure, and then get back to doing the works of Abraham. Bringing the fullness of the gospel back. Becoming wheat once again. Tares in a fallen apostate in the wilderness Church, choke many of the wheat. While claiming they have all they need, passed on man to man. But if they would admit the truth, and sometimes they do if you listen in their conference talks, they too lack the fullness of the gospel. They lack the presence and revelation Joseph Smith and others had. Therefore lacking Repentance. There has been a famine of hearing the word of the Lord. They do in fact say they only have the same gift of possibly hearing from the holy Ghost as all other members. Even Brigham Young declared he was not a prophet, but Joseph Smith was. He was right.
The fullness of the Gospel is required to redeem Zion. The redemption of Zion is required to redeem the fullness of the priesthood that was had in the beginning.
So that which was held in the beginning, as prophesied, will be held in the last days before the second coming. A great chiasm with Yeshua in the center.
Many of you cast out from among you, whether you are leaders or people following them and doing the same, the righteous who begin to repent. Who are trying to repent. Those trying to get back to the presence, or the fullness of the gospel. Many persecute them. While standing in great and spacious buildings. Pointing to the people holding to the rod. To the Lord. Not realizing the apostasy that was already prophesied about you for thousands of years before. You don't search the scriptures. Or don't read them. Or don't understand them and apply them appropriately. It was made clear.
Like Jesus said to people in His day. If you were the seed of Abraham, you would be doing the works of Abraham.
John 8:39 - Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: 7Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
But they, Judah in the days of the Lord, also held Aaronic priesthood and had their temple. The rigid leaders, got angry. They reject Yeshua. His people. His teachings. The fullness he was trying to bring among them. The light that began to come forth again.
Will you continue to be like them? Like Hebrews of old? Like Israel of old? When the light begins again to shine forth among you? Have you already?
The kingdom of Yahweh that comes, and the millennial era of peace that follows it, comes differently like He said. Not like all of the failed Christian religious organizations of today. At first without observance with the eye. Zion is also prophesied to come back. That will be observed with an eye. But will you continue to reject the repentant people, who are actually heading that direction now? Will you continue to reject the Repentant remnant? Because you and your organization, continue to claim they have all they need? And need no more? Not realizing that which is the fullness, does not even exist among you?
It really was plainly stated in Scripture. It's even plainly taught in other sacred texts that should have been put in the Bible by Constantine. But they were removing everything that made people free. Trying to burn and destroy all the records (and people) which talked about it. Original Christianity. More full gospel. A gospel that taught people how to be Independent with God directly, like the Lord was trying to teach.
Many today who reside in America and especially these Rocky mountains, hold the blood of the fathers. Of Adam, Abraham, Joseph of Egypt, his son's Manassah and Ephraim. And possibly even the blood of the Smiths from 1844. And possibly even holy Grail blood passed on from the French and German apostate kings and priests, if that is legit. I personally have all of those lineages within me. Many pioneer descendants do.
The blood of our father's cries out to us within the blood of our own veins!
Their hearts have been turned to us. They know they need us in the last days to do what they began in old days. There are Promises or Covenants made to them, that their seed would one day get the fullness and redeem Zion in the end! To the fullness of gospel they held. To the fullness of priesthood that they held. To the days of Zion, all things super rare in the entire creation.
We have to get back to the works of Abraham. To the prophetic works or spirit of Elias or Elijah. To the presence of Christ or Yeshua/YHWY.
There are a handful turning back too these things now. And they like Enoch, can only serve you by teaching. By example. Not being apostate kings and priests in the land repeating the same old mistakes and iniquity of fathers past. Not through pretending. They are among the repentant covenant people of Yahweh today. Covenant people are such because they turn back towards the works of Abraham. To being Elijah types.
Malachi said Elijah is coming back before the 2nd coming. Elijah was translated and never tasted death. Much like Enoch. Enoch is coming back, physically to the people in Zion, with his previous Zion. Why not Elijah if he was taken up like Enoch before? And after Elijah is back, he will likely leave because he has more work to do among others. Maybe because the tribe of Judah still wait for him to dine with them in their feasts. Still leaving a plate at their table for him to come. But many won't believe it again when he tells them, that their savior was Yeshua crucified before. The same Savior of us all. Both are likely returning to visit the Covenant people. Elijah will likely be among them to get them back to restoring the fullness of the priesthood that Adam held at the beginning. Enoch likely helps them build a proper Zion. And one day, Michael might come back and lead them into a garden of Eden future state.
On a side note: I read an extra biblical text recently that mentioned Adam's wife was renamed Righteousness. It seems applicable to me. Like she might be the one who chooses the people who reopens that future Garden of Eden era, and her husband actually enabling it. And that same Lost Gospels text mentioned that Asenath, wife of Joseph of Egypt, was given a new name of City of Peace or Zion. Makes sense to me as Joseph was the last one to hold the patriarchal full priesthood on the earth. His wife very likely maybe in charge of choosing who goes to Zion. And her husband enabling it to actually take place. So when Denver Snuffer saying women should vote on (choose) who can do priesthood ordinances among them, is not such a wild idea.
After tribulations of man, then the Lord's tribulations, natural disasters, and after his return to cleanse the world, then Zion could eventually get back to an even higher state, like a garden of Eden. Where the Father and Son can physically walk. Or the other Els (noble and great Els and those who did the works of Abraham in their mortal probation and were made such, and resurrected immediately after the Lord's -probably why the people saw graves open after the Lord opened His).
We can get back to The prerequisite Zion, with the fullness of gospel and fullness of priesthood, and even hanging out with Father and Son, and other Fathers/Mothers. The Lord becomes an Eternal Father to them. They are His inheritance. Patriarchal Family. Heavenly Father gave the heritance of the earth or this creation cycle to Him. Which is why all of us have to personally go through His apprenticeship alone, and be re-adopted spiritually to Him. The Lord becomes the Eternal Father and the Father becomes GrandFather to them. Greater glorification for both. Because well this is what they do. Their work and glory is to bring us back to actual familial status, both spiritually and eventually physically.
That which has been at the first, will be there at the last. The whole chiastic structure, has been followed. Is being followed.
Common sense or reasonable deduction will show, that God isn't going to do anything, especially great things like this, without a repentant people turning their hearts back to the fullness of the gospel. The Works of Abraham.
Those of you who are still sprouts or wheat in the church, being choked by it still or not, whether or not you still go, is up to you. It's not a bad thing to be leaven in that clump of bread. You know who you are. You know that a famine of Word or Revelation exists in the church. You know the church is in the wilderness. Some of you studied so much that you're on a scholarly level and just confused about it all still. But you know things are clearly out of order, because you actually study and compare. Still trying to stick with the main body that you know fell long ago. You know that Hugh Nibley was right. That's as a group they are only getting further away from any future Zion. Many who studied with Avraham Gileadi, who continued Nibley's awakening work, they know too. Many have begun to awaken. Many of us awoke by Reading their words, and then searching the scriptures and prophecies in them, before reading books written to the LDS by Denver Snuffer.
You saw Denver Snuffer come among you. If you read his books you will clearly begin to see what I see. The scholarly or not. Church authors on false doctrines or not. Leaders who sit in chief seats or those in the pews.
This is the light coming forth among you again. "THIS GOSPEL" appearing again. Will you deny it like the days of Joseph? The days of Moses? Be like Laman and Lemuel among Nephi and Lehi who got the fullness back? Israelites in the day of Yeshua among them? Yeah the LDS held the priesthood. They had their corrupt temples unauthorized by God too. But you know there is so much more to get back to. And those who don't know that yet can begin to know.
Because it's happening again. I don't see enough of you understanding the scriptures everywhere and being a part of the work that is already beginning again. And if I see it here, surely the Lord sees it with a much greater vantage point. Or not applying yourself to scripture in whatever way. We have to apply it to ourselves, and to church history. We cannot mis-apply it to others.
Read Denver's books. His first book is a witness of the light coming among the repentant LDS remnant again. It's bringing you right back to that very fullness of gospel that was lost among us so long ago.
RestoreZion.com - because this is what it's all about in the last days. If we don't get back to that like was attempted in the days of Joseph Smith, or if only a few get back to it, I hate to say it but the prophecies don't look so bright and cheery to those who don't get there. To nerit divine protection.
I want to be there. I want my friends and family and other hurt and confused people still in the church to be there. The Lord tells me to teach The Truth... because He wants you to be there. He says there's many wheat still stuck there, and many trying to become wheat and are lost and don't know what to do. In my humility I don't even want to do it, because I'm not yet like Joseph Smith or Denver Snuffer, or anything like Abraham. I'm not yet what I know I could be. Or should be. But 100% believe in doing the works of Abraham. That they are possible. It starts somewhere.
Sprout into good fruit, those beginning to hear his voice in scripture or true messengers today and His voice personally (sprouting wheat), become the good grain, ready to be harvested to good things. Become Wheat, and feed His sheep, even assist others who are like you who hear His voice. Assist the covenant wheat spouts and wheat, and all the others that still need to become such.
Again, I don't like to repeat it, but the scriptures say that eventually all of The tares that still remain in the corrupt vineyard, will be bundled and burned. At the great last day. Because they don't qualify for his presence. His presence and coming in His full Glory, for that event, is the fire that cleanses.
Water cleansed the last great apostasy or fall from a garden of Eden State on the earth. We can't be so naive that a fire cleansing won't happen or be necessary to cleanse the earth again... To get back to such things.
That which has been, shall be again.
Still doubting???
And if you still don't want to believe it is happening again... Just remember other scriptures. Like Elijah. Or Samuel a Lamanite among church going Nephites... God's prophets who come from unlikely places. From the weak. The Lord often chooses the weak to do the great.
Corinthians 1:27:
"But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;"
We should be proud to be the weak and foolish, people from unlikely places, used to do great things.
We need Moses types, and Elijahs and Samuel the lamanites. Enochs. Isaiahs. Daniels. Jared's brother. Nephis. Mormons (sorry I had to add that one :-)), or like Abraham, getting back to the fullness when no one else has it.
You still want to deny and reject the very truth and works of God? In our day?
I speak as a friend. We need to get back to FAITH. REPENTANCE. The Doctrine of Christ. Back to the fullness of it all. We have the examples. We have the warnings. We have the prophecies. Stick to them.
Faith is believing the fullness of gospel is real. You show your faith by True Repentance. That world has special meaning in it's fullest sense... COMING BACK INTO THE PRESENCE/WORD OF THE LORD TO YOU. C&E was spoken about in the new testament. That too is a part of repentance. There is soooo much to that one topic.