John 3:16
KJV
But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Joseph III, Joseph’s and Emma’s oldest living son, conducted an interview with his mother near the end of her life in which she affirmed multiple times that her husband never practiced polygamy or anything like it and stated unequivocally, “I know that he had no other wife or wives than myself in any sense, either spiritual or otherwise.”
-Emma Smith well after 1844. Emma was an Elect. Whom of which Brigham spoke much evil of.
Framing Joseph - Rob Fotheringham (watch all his videos):
Joseph Smith Fought Polygamy - Price:
Michelle Stone:
Karen Hyatt on Polygamy never lived by Joseph Smith:
Gwendolye Wyne:
Hyrum Smith missing discussion 1844:
Lies and conspiracies in Nauvoo
If you don't understand why things were done, original intentions, in nauvoo, you won't understand why Joseph Smith was falsely labeled the original polygamist by Mormon apostles and the many false affidavits they had women write up after the death of Joseph. Joseph wanted to get rid of all polygamy. Not just John c Bennett's bad version of it. But top apostles in the church were already living it at the time. They knew Joseph was about to publicly declare all polygamy to be wrong. They were worried about their own plural families and their future plural wife taking. The church apostles who later took leadership of the church, even though Joseph Smith said Samuel Smith would be his successor, whom even died a month later from poisoning (was stated historically that brigham young had that ordered as well), knew what would happen if they pushed him to order demolition of the printing press instead of just the newspapers. They knew it. They pushed him to sign the city council order. They were apostles and city council members, and they were the ones who put the order together. And convinced him to sign it. Destroying the printing press was an illegal thing. He could have destroyed the newspapers legally. They knew what they were doing. They knew what the destruction of the printing press would lead to. Just as this article states in its summary.
Brigham Young and John Taylor and other polygamous apostles, not only wanted to keep their plural wives and have opportunity to take more, but Saw the example of William law creating the true Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints, then also saw their chance to take control and lead their own church. They could be the ultimate church leaders in the end and live their polygamy. King Noah style. And that is the corrupted Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints. The church was under condemnation since 1832 as the Lord stated. But in 1844 it was completely taken over by dishonest polygamist nauvoo apostolic leaders. And an actual, virtuous, real prophet was killed likely because of their role in it all.
What I consider facts:
1. Joseph and Hyrum still sit among the Heavenly Council.
2. Trying to uphold that Joseph Smith was secretly living polygamy, sneaking behind his wife's back and making public lies that he wasn't, it's not a good thing to perpetuate. And it is a bad show of example that many have continued since. That nonsense in D&C 132 about a first wife being destroyed if she doesn't allow her man to have other relationships... does that sound like the Lord to you??? Thanks to Brigham for the ungodly edits.
3. The seed of cain, probably because it was taught by cain, were the first ones to enter that type of MARITAL relationship.
4. Polygamy helped cause the downfall in Abraham's family. The patriarchical priesthood was restored and then lost again. In five generations. It might have been a top contributing factor. That and sons wanting to be the next Patriarchal head (ambition). Whether the right way in Patriarchal Family order, or temp church organization, the same errors and their reasons continue. Stop it.
5. Polygamy helped cause King David to do what he did. He committed adultery by stealing another man's wife for himself and accessory to murder to cause it to happen. There are 3 things that can remove C&E formerly granted. That's what he lost that day and grieved so much thereafter. King Solomon became excessive. He was living polygamy to unite kingdoms. A cover or truth I don't know.
6. The polygamy experience in the LDS Church after 1844 was a complete mess. It was lived in the church until about 1910. They said they stopped living it in 1904 but they actually continued doing it by crossing the border into mexico. Actual lying to the government and public. Brigham Young formerly took power and control in the church. Without vote. He corrupted a fallen people who once had a shot at being a Covenant group. He took Young brides. Was prideful in the fact that he had over 50 wives. As if that's some measure of priesthood blessing or goodness. His Apostle stole another man's wife and three kids, and murdered for it. Denver snuffer once mentioned that a Mormon Bishop in St george, was still using some of that bad fruit from before, for his own ungodly purposes. He was trying to convince an active member to give his fiance to the bishop. Him and the fiance couldn't do it. The man was taken in the night and castrated for it.
Look at the fruits. See the intention. Everyone does something for a reason.
Brigham Young even taught that every man has to have at least three wives to be exalted in the highest heavens. Him and John Taylor helped create the blood atonement nonsense. Look at the fruits of that one. Within the LDS Church (Santa Clara UT murders) and fundamentalist break offs. They both started secretly helping members end their existence, if they couldn't choose to do it. on their own. As if a person could really pay for serious sin by committing suicide. They only add murder to the list.
7. Look at the famine of hearing the word of the lord. Since 1844. Even Brigham said he wasn't a prophet. He said Joseph Smith was. Said he was just a good fox at gathering the hens. At least I believe that statement from him. Where are the additional sections of D&C to vote on as scripture in the church? They just stopped. And a dishonest addendum was added last, saying to discontinue polygamy but they continued doing it. Where's the additional records of John that were spoken of? Revelations from the top? Divine intervention? Experiences? Leaders going therein, and rightly correcting their manipulative ways and properly teaching others to go therein themselves?
It doesn't take long for a reasonable person to reason things out, after studying and praying long enough. And divine impression and answers helps immensely.
Facts I now know, but I did not know before, ideas which are still against the current institutions forceful ways of thinking (which is primarily based on the ideas of LDS authors ie scribes):
Plural marriage is not among the divine families. It is not an eternal practice. It is foreign to them. It was something reluctantly allowed for a few in the old testament. Or maybe even some after. Because it was their request. Or entered into because of custom. A custom originated by the seed of Cain.
There is one king and one queen. Merged together. The Exalted are where they are because they are merged forever. Necessary for exaltation. Yes a patriarch may choose to seal someone else into their own family, in order to be of priestly service to them, and help them along their path to Godliness. And Joseph was doing only that. At first he was sealing a female into his patriarchal family as a spouse. Later he learned he can just adopt men and women as sons or daughters, to tie them into his family. That avoided any false accusations from what he was doing before. He was not seeking for a plethora of wives to fulfill some sexual conquest. There where lies made up about him, that he was sneaking around his wife to live it. Because she didn't like it. Believe Emma over Brigham. Don't you realize she was an Elect? Brigham manipulated and abused that Elect Lady. She always stated until her death that her husband never lived polygamy. That she was his only actual wife. But hey, better not listen to wives/women. Abuse fame claimed authority anyway. Joseph and Hyrum were fighting that topic in the church. Trying to get it out of the church and Nauvoo. Other leaders were wanting to keep it there. And so it was until 1910ish. Still there today, not in practice but in teaching. Though I have heard of BYU professors trying to convince young students to secretly be a part of their expanded families. Even to the point of compelling and forcing other members to stop bringing up the facts about the idea. Facts that contradict their own way of thinking. Even under threats of expulsion. And if any of the leadership since Brigham young, had any form of inspiration or direction from the Lord, they would have cleaned this up in the church long ago. Instead of good members figuring it out before them. And then they being forced/pushed/threatened ie manipulated into shutting up.
Look at the fruits. Sometimes we are stubborn and we have to see it after the fact.
Our religious organization is the one who turned an actual prophet into an adulterer and liar, and good faithful members are digging in and finding those facts and then are wrongly manipulated and forced into stopping their proper conduct of fixing the error among us. I saw similar nonsense going on with those who think the book of Mormon took place in North America over Central. I've seen it take place for people simply writing books about the Second Comforter that members need to read. Or worse yet, regular members simply agreeing with those who do write the books.
Forceful threats of fear and punishment cannot be used to manipulate and compel people to do things your way.
Does all this look like a divinely lead institution to you?
We are taught to seek for true messengers. Preferably those from the other side of the veil. There are Messengers on this side of the veil also. True Messengers don't operate like this. I know how to Messengers are. And I've seen them come along. And they were not the heads of any church. Even the Bible teaches to seek the best gifts like prophesying and healing and casting out evil spirits. Mormons are taught how to pierce the veil. How to get impressions and answers and communication. And shows certain signs that can occur showing you're actually getting it. Signs follow those with faith. Stuff actually starts happening after the trial of your faith for some time. Performing a ritual that teaches you something, is not doing the real thing. Even performing that for other dead people, it's just teaching them how to go and do it themselves. They will have to do that in a mortality. Just like everyone else. We can't actually do that for them. All that stuff has been created in the minds of LDS leaders long after the lack of hearing the word of the lord existed. Joseph Smith was doing something else. That can be derived by those who actually research.
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