Saturday, September 2, 2017

New Covenant People Are Born Sep 2, 2017

 


See
http://www.covenantofchristconference.com/past/2017/Boise/index.php#recordings

Corresponds with the heavenly alignment the same time period.


Quoting Denver Snuffer from the Conference:

"The spirit of God is withdrawing from the world. Men are increasingly more angry without good cause. The hearts of men are waxing cold. There is increasing anger and resentment of gentiles. In political terms, it’s rejection of white privilege. Language of scriptures description of the events now underway calls it the end of the times of the gentiles. This process with the spirit withdrawing, will end on this continent as two prior civilization ended, in fratricidal and genocidal warfare. For the rest of the world, it will be as in the days of Noah in which, as that light becomes eclipsed, the coldness of men’s hearts is going to result in a constant scene of violence and bloodshed. The wicked will destroy the wicked. The covenant, if it is kept, will prevent you from losing light and warmth of heart as the spirit now steadily recedes from the world. The time will come, when you will be astonished at the gulf between the light and truth you will comprehend and the darkness of mind of the world. Be charitable and patient and labor to reach others. They will judge you harshly, but nevertheless be kind to them. They are going to grow to fear you, but that’s only part of how darkness responds to light. Give them no reason to fear you. The time will come for us to gather, but between now and then be leaven. Preserve the world. Be salt. Preserve the world. Even if it hates you."

Friday, March 24, 2017

New LDS Remnant Scripture Cannon

 


Scriptures here are online here: http://scriptures.info/

For questions or feedback on the project, email to:
RESTORATIONSCRIPTURES2017@GMAIL.COM


THESE SCRIPTURES INCLUDE  THE NEW JOSEPH SMITH TRANSLATIONS OF THE OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS!

Update: There is also an app with the scriptures: Restoration Scriptures

Thursday, July 28, 2016

A Personal Journey

 

It must be understood, that there is an individual journey that must be gone through, in order to pass all the tests and earn trust and promises (and fulfillment of them) from Heaven. We must understand this, as to not judge too harshly or make the person's journey even more difficult (which of course might actually be a necessity - but there are plenty of people to give this experience, don't let it be YOU). This journey, for obvious reasons, requires hardships to be passed through. It will break you, in order to remake you.  The path (and I speak from experience, knowledge of experiences of friends further along the path than me and scriptural histories) is full of sorrow and will also require each person to go through phases of thinking that you hear the Lord, to thinking maybe you did not, or maybe you were deceived. Messages can come from Above, below, our own thoughts and even from our emotional mind (fears, worries, etc pushing our minds to go a certain direction, or ever altering hard to hear messages coming from Above). Sometimes, in our zeal to hear from Above, we can get hasty and mistake a message from below or from our own mind, as a message from Above. We will likely be deceived by our own thoughts or messages from below. This is part of the journey. God allows His own, to pass through these experiences. We must push through all this, to continue the path. 

As Snuffer once stated, we will come to a point where we must doubt our own doubts. Until we are having one on one, two-way conversations, with Angels, the Lord and even the Father... we are very prone to doing something out of zeal, that may not actually be what Heaven wants of us to actually do. At the same time, it just may be exactly what they want you to choose... in order for you to hear Them, before graduating you further along the Path.


There Is No Avoiding The Suffering and Persecution


When you see someone else going through hardships, the first thought is that they must be going off the path. This is most common with our LDS family and friends when they presume and assume that we are suffering hardships and loneliness, because we must be "falling away" or going "apostate" from the brethren or modern day church. But I have seen it within the awakening LDS Remnant as well. It may very well be a true fact, they are very likely forging through a necessary part of the path. Think of Job. Why else is the book preserved in the Bible? To prove this very point. Next time you think another person (who is actually trying to forge the Path Of Christ) is deceived, and/or suffering because YOU think they may be going off the Path... remember to allow the person to have the experience. If they make it through these experiences, and choose wisely, and trust the Lord to bring them through this passage way, they will make it. Some times we have to sit back, like Father, and let people experience hardships, in order to truly learn what they need to.


Looking Inward


Among the Remnant movement, I have witnessed much contention, false assumptions, serious judgemental comments, devaluation and then defaming of others occurs... which leads to strifes and even division. More than likely, people within the Remnant are going through these very portions of a very personal Path. Many get lost going thru the pass, if you remember Denver's story about the beast trying to get at the person who trusted on the Lord to bring them safely through. 

Remember the Tree of Life dream by Lehi. Hold to that Rod, to partake/receive of the Eternal Promises (fruit). Dare I say you will go through even more false ridicule and mistaken apostasy complaints... to earn Fulfillment of those earlier Promises. Don't think for a minute that the path gets any easier. You might be more confident in what you are doing is the will of the Lord or Father, but the path necessarily remains difficult. You will face persecution from outside the Remnant AND WITHIN. You must push through all that, trusting in the only One who can get you through that pass.

But this path causes a two-edged sword of confusion for bystanders. Those bystanders can either see it for what it truly is, or mock, point fingers, judge, criticize, spread rumors or gossip of YOUR VIEW of the circumstances... and end up another tool of the adversary, who is the Father of Accusations, Lies and Contention. He (and those filled with his "spirit" or thoughts), is allowed to bruise our heel. By God. Yes, even our loving Father and His Son, our Brother (who can also be your Father via adoption). Why we are here.

Yes, it is wise to give loving advice to help others make good decisions. But please be so careful to avoid the judgemental and accusatory stuff! When you blurt out that you cannot stand certain topics found in scripture and/or church history, or that someone from the past or someone that we know today is flat out deceived and falling off the path, and assume that your view is the only correct one, while also harshly judging and condemning... what is more important? That your view is more accurate, or how you are treating that other person?



Prove True And Faithful. Overcome All Things


We must pass through ALL things, in order to obtain the Greater Things. We must prove true and faithful, whether we are the one on the path being mis-judged, or looking upon others on the path and possibly pointing fingers ourselves.

This Gospel stuff is serious. It really is like a two-edged sword that cuts both ways. This mortal life is chock full of chaos, paradoxes and evil. Full of people falsely assuming, persecuting and mocking. And necessarily so. This world is as it is, for a reason. Push through all that. Trust in The Advocate with the Father to take you safely through it all. Yes, He (and Father) WILL allow you to suffer at times, and has to sit back in tears while you do, hoping for the best and lightly nudging you to get through it all. We have to go through certain hardships, to truly learn by experience. For our own good.

If your journey is easy and light, I would have to question exactly what path you think you are on. I won't judge you as bad or avoid you... but I can share a little concern for you.



Cry, But Avoid Causing It


Do not, I repeat, do not find yourself being part of those inflicting more tears and hurt. We of all people, should know better!!! We have experienced persecution, false assumptions and hurt by them already. Those of us who are awakening, are all on different parts of the path. Some have more time and experience. Some further along the path, which I admire and have been praying for all along. Some may be going through some temporary self deception. Some are still trying to Hear that weak signal of revelation coming through. Some are finding themselves in see through walled rooms communicating face to face with Angels or the Lord. Some have gone further still, and meeting our Heavenly Parents sitting on their thrones. No matter what part of the path you find yourself on, help and love and assist others to progress along their path. We must avoid finding out in hindsight that we hindered, caused more tears or worse: caused them to regress.

I have said before, and I don't think of myself as some guru or perfect guy... but what matters most is not who is right or wrong about some topic or whether or not another person is falling off the path (at least you are concerned)... but what matters most is how we treat each other, while eventually coming to see eye to eye on truth. Do not avoid questioning any topic, or discussing what ever topic you want... but do it logically, searching for the truth, leaving out the negative emotions or emotional responses that we are all so quick to blurt out at times.



In Summary


Love God more. Love ourselves and each other more. What more can I say to sum it all up?

Tuesday, December 15, 2015

Polygamy Not Eternal

 Denver has said much about not wanting people to follow or depend too much upon him. I find it interesting that so many are so interested in nearly every thing he writes or states on most every subject, except for his pre-2014 statements on the history of plural marriage (specifically all the posts he wrote on his blog in June 2012). Snuffer plainly explained that Joseph Smith was somehow involved with Plural Marriage. He stated that D&C 132 is a collection of many revelations given to Joseph (with just a few word changes by Brigham Young). Snuffer had previously explained how God does allow some of His people to have plural wives (if commanded, or allowed for those who have sealing authority), and that the un-authorized by God living of plural marriage is an abomination. 

But after 2014, he seems to change his tone on the topic, as if he is trying to allow people to now assume Joseph never lived it and that plural marriage is always an abomination. He states that Joseph did not commit adultery. I agree. For me, I look at every statement Snuffer makes on the topic, and look at it all as a whole. If something contradicts, I ask why. As any one should. All this reminds me of when the Lord said I come not to bring piece, but a sword. A two-edged sword that cuts both ways. Obvioulsy even Denver was learning more truth or untruth on the topic during this year.


On Nov. 1st I emailed and asked Denver what he meant when he stated on his blog October 31st that "God does not justify carnal relations except between one man and his one wife". His reply came a couple hours later. I feel safe only sharing what Denver states publicly. I can say one comment agrees with his pre-2014 statements on the topic and I so would love to share it here. On Nov. 4th he posted a blog and only mentioned one of the many things he had stated to me privately. That one thing was about Cain (should read the seed of Cain) being the first one recorded in the biblical record to live it. He stated in his blog "...the adulterous taking of multiple wives is a pattern originated by Cain and later imitated by Brigham Young". I also agree. Obviously a murderer like cain or his son lamech is not allowed to be one of God's people who can rightly be authorized to live such a system. He said the practice needs to come to an end.

In his recent Mormon History talk found here: http://denversnuffer.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Mormon-History.pdf Snuffer reminds us that he will talk more about some topics as promised. Snuffer had previously told me in person, at the end of the St George Lecture in 2014, that he will explain more about this topic, after I commented to him that he stated some can be allowed or commanded to live as he discussed in his book Passing The Heavenly Gift and on his blog (for heavens sakes actually read what he wrote on the topic in PTHG chapter 6 - his words there also agree with his many blog posts and other lectures). Likely a topic to fully explain when people are ready to actually digest it all properly. More foundational Kingdom teachings need to be understood first? Snuffer not explaining it all now, is enough to help others understand that there is something hard to share on this topic that most are not ready for. If Joseph Smith did not actually live this familial system, just like Abraham, Jacob, Moses and others had... then why not simply say so and clearly settle the case? That explanation seems easy.

 I had some serious questions about Denver's statement on Oct 31st about acceptable relations should only be between a man and his wife. Denver's comment there was more geared to open relations (like the secret adulterous/fornicative spiritual wifery that Bennett and Higby and others were doing) and gay relations. But the one man and one woman comment (along with his other now contradictory, anti-accept plural marriage principle statements the past year) was enough to push me to contact him. In 2010 I had quite a few conversations with him via email. But he told me to read all his books first and stopped replying to me and to other friends later that same year. He was busy with his books and lots of people were starting to contact him. I hadn't received a reply from him in years. I didn't know if I would get a response. My main question to him on Nov. 1st was "Are you saying no one in our day... could be be 132 justified like you use to write prior to 2014?" After getting one response from him, there was one little vague statement that really caught me off guard and caused some serious confusion. That statement, paired with his recent image of God being a man and a woman statements, caused me to take it to the Lord on Nov 1st. An answer came the next day. It was additional information I had not understand on top of the years of research and understanding I already had on the topic. I did not like it. I was hoping I had received false revelation. I was hoping what Denver had been saying publicly and privately to me was incorrect. Hoping there was a mistake intentionally being made by him. I went back to the scriptures in D&C 132 and Jacob ch 2. Certain words seemed to jump out at me and made more sense than ever. I still struggled with the new information.

Well, I wanted further clarification, some confirmation on my possible revelation that was causing me so much confusion. Good or bad for doing so, it didn't matter at the time. I was eager to settle it. I emailed some follow up questions and responses. 2 or 3 emails were sent to him for a couple weeks. No reply. He only made a public post about cain's seed living it in the Bible, and recently gave more subtle little hints, but not much was really expressed in his Mormon History talk... where he again states that more details will be given in the future. That could be a public answer to show he wants to put off answering my private questions, but I really wanted clarification from him on his own reply he had made to me and to see if I was heading towards further light or darkness on the topic. I was still in a bit of mental agony for those three weeks. Too many questions. Too many contradictions with scripture and some of Joseph Smith's words and actions (if and where recorded accurately). Too many buts and what ifs.

On Nov. 22nd, while having a nice spiritual Sunday afternoon, I was again reading chapter 6 of Passing the Heavenly Gift. Denver's use and quoting of the words from D&C 132. I looked at the D&C 132 verses again. I stared out the window as I often do to ponder. I ask. How can some of God's people be allowed to live plural marriage in mortality, if there is only one man and one woman in God's Kingdom (image of God end state of being)? Why would God permit something for time only? Only one Queen out of all of the wives of all those great prophets of the past make it with one King/Man? The other wives who don't make queenship, are recycled into another mortality in another creation cycle and have no claim at all on their man they had hopes and expectations to be with in eternity? Why was Joseph sealing people to himself, even some who were married for time, if they do not go with him in God's Kingdom/eternity? These were the questions for three weeks that were bothering me. How could my new understanding jive with what Abraham, Isaac and Jacob lived? How could my own previous revelations on the matter agree with the new understanding? Something must be amiss. Was I deceived somewhere? Where? Is Denver intending to be contradictory intentionally to keep people from relying too much upon him and not enough on the Lord? 


I ponder some more. Some information and word began flowing. All I can say is that the explanations that went on for some time was one of the biggest relief or ah-hah moments I've had. It made more sense. It relaxed my little mental agony going on for weeks. Boy does Snuffer have some things to explain in the future. Some questions still remain, but I think I got enough to help settle my mind. We have to first understand single salvation vs couple exaltation, sealing authority, raising up seed to the Lord (not polygamy), reflect on C&E promises, realize that some standings in eternity are not "eternal" or forever but in deed more glorious a standing than being recycled into another mortal probation in a different creation period, etc. But also note, that this answer came and was totally against everything I had researched in church history and scriptures. I really thought I had the polygamy topic all figured out. 

Short answer obtained between Nov 2-22, is, plural marriage IS NOT ETERNAL. I was told that Adam and Eve are the example of the Image of God. Of how we are all supposed to be. 1 King and 1 Queen. It was only suffered/reluctantly allowed in mortality by those in the Old Testament, because that was their custom. A custom originally began by the son of Cain. It is not something we want to get caught up with in our day! 

2025 Update:  Joseph Smith was never living polygamy. He was only doing patriarchal family sealings to connect families to his. Brigham Young took what he was doing, to make it appear that Joseph Smith started polygamy in the church, when it was Brigham!



As Snuffer later stated in his paper this week on Mormon History, the answers do come if you keep pondering and asking. Some of the words he used in his paper later, actually matched some of the exact words the Lord had used to explain some things to me on Nov. 22nd.

Answers come. It may take some time to be prepared to see it, and likely will be given here and there, when you are ready to receive it. Many topics take some foundational ideas to first be understood, before really seeing the bigger picture.
 
Anyways, go to the Lord to confirm and for explanations. They come. Through the veil process is a harder ordeal (it really is info given to your spirit from the Spirit which has to trickle down via hard to hear words and enlightenment into your mortal understanding) but I see the wisdom in it. Part of the journey. The mortal man still wishes the Lord would just reveal Himself in the flesh and explain things easily and quickly. Sure would be cool to go up and hang with Moses and other angels like Denver and others have done! Would to God that we were all near or on that level.

It is so much easier to understand a greater view of things, when you peer into eternity for a few minutes and get a fuller explanation. 
 
Sometimes frustration for a time can keep motivating you to keep seeking for answers.
Snuffer could explain the truth on the topic now. I could try to explain what I now understand. Snuffer obviously has reasons not to dive too far into it at this time, otherwise he would have cleared things up. I see the wisdom in not declaring it openly. I am sure there is more to learn, but I am satisfied for now. My increase of intelligence on the matter is comforting. I'm sure there is more to learn, seems there always is! Frustration is not always a bad thing, it can be motivational.
 
I am just another fool on the same trek. A trek I have been on since 2008 after discovering what is really necessary to live in God's Kingdom forever. I have had some revelations through the veil. Had a couple visions. Had very small conversations spiritually, thru the veil with Angels (hey maybe some physical ones unaware). Understandings have increased over time with a little here and a little there. I remember for about 2 yrs being woken up numerous times hearing some kind of scripture-like instruction being given that I wish my mortal mind could diligently receive and remember. Have felt un-explainable glorious things at times and realized later what it meant. I have had some failures. I have also faced evil things that I never thought possible and don't want to discuss. I have seen hell do all they can through weaknesses of others close to me. Have heard great things that I sometimes think cannot be. I still to this day lament and desire with all my heart to be much further along the path than I am, as I am sure most probably feel.
 
But I want and am willing to understand all things. Wading in the deep end is not a problem for me either. I seek and ask always. If I lack intelligent understanding, I want it. If I misunderstand anything, I want correction. If the Lord has something to show me I need to work on, I want to hear it. I don't get offended if people don't yet understand what I do or have a different opinion on a topic (maybe a little bothered at personal opinions expressed that show a lack of research/pondering). I will not stop meeting with you or falsely assume negative things about you for trying to figure out some truth (this has happened to me in our growing LDS remnant community that hopes to one day be a part of Zion).
 
Hold to the Rod, He wants you to weary Him. He wants you to take your questions to Him. If Snuffer or others don't want to share something, go to the Lord and do all to pierce that veil (yes, it sometimes seems like a solid brick wall). Never give up, no matter how hard things in your life become, or how distant you think you are to Him. No matter how confused you are on some topic. Questions and misunderstandings are an opportunity. Problems that the adversary is allowed to cause you while on your trek are also opportunities. Take them as they come, and endure them well. Your salvation and/or exaltation depends on it.
 
To the truth, and nothing but. I care less about the misunderstandings and opinions of men. What I really want is the truth on everything I can, from The Source.
 

Sunday, July 5, 2015

Patriarchal Priesthood and the Presiding Patriarch

 


Quote:
"In the Latter Day Saint movement, the Presiding Patriarch (also called Presiding Evangelist, Patriarch over the Church, Patriarch of the Church, or Patriarch to the Church) is a church-wide leadership office within the priesthood. Among the duties of the Presiding Patriarch are to preside in council meetings, ordain other patriarchs, and administer patriarchal blessings.
Originally, the office of Presiding Patriarch was one of the highest and most important offices of the church's priesthood. The role was equated by Joseph Smith, Jr. with Biblical patriarchs from Adam to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and it was expected that the office would descend through lineal succession from father to son. This precedent was set when Hyrum Smith, Joseph's brother, became the second Presiding Patriarch because he was the eldest surviving son of the first Presiding Patriarch, Joseph Smith, Sr. When the office was given to Hyrum, he was given "keys of the patriarchal priesthood over the kingdom of God on earth, even the Church of the Latter Day Saints."[1] Thus, some have argued that Presiding Patriarch is an office of the Patriarchal Priesthood. However, the existence and meaning of the Patriarchal Priesthood is controversial and uncertain."
-From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presiding_Patriarch

This may not be church sourced, but the conclusion is accurate.


Check out the Presiding Patriarch diagram at the link above and note all the times when there was a break, or when there was not Presiding Patriarch, or no presiding patriarch was recognized by the church but was "acting in the office".

This office is the one that is required to be selected from among the Presiding Patriarch's sons, while still alive. This is the Priesthood (Patriarchal) that was suppose to descend from Father to Son. The current Presiding Patriarch must select the most righteous, eldest son (and teachings and ordinances must remain unchanged for heaven to accept it's continuance). It never happened when Hyrum held that office.


The break first in church history occurred with the death of Hyrum in 1844. You can see the next one is not selected by the church until 1845, under BY as church President. Joseph Smith did not select who should follow him as church president either (there was no church president for 3 years after Joseph). Hyrum Smith did not select and bless his Heir as Presiding Patriarch as the scriptures show is the pattern. Neither God nor Hyrum preserved the Presiding Head Patriarch office (or even the office of Church President), though Joseph and Hyrum knew they would be killed if they did not flee with their fellow polygamist(confidentially) friends to the rockies. They both knew it would come to an end, and they in fact chose to leave the church on their own. The church was taken over by the Qof12.  Brigham 3 years later convinced everyone to accept his self elected position to be President of the church. It has been in the wilderness since.

As Emma said, there is no church without Joseph. The Church of Christ above once again began to be separated from the organized church on earth. More than that, there was no more Presiding Patriarch over a growing family of God on earth, and no valid second anointings passing on sealing power or C&E man to man since (despite the leader's attempts to do other wise).

How can God leave with the church the Patriarchal Order, or even sealing power among them (which it was intended to be directed by a Head Patriarch), when these hugely important things are not even understood by them?

How can any church leader or member, or other fundy leader or member who broke off the church well after the time of Hyrum Smith (well after the break), think that valid second anointings have been passed on man to man, which is supposed to only be valid under Patriarchal Priesthood and under the direction of the Presiding Patriarch, when confusion has reigned about the Office and sealing power, plural marriage, law of adoption and many other things since the deaths of Joseph and Hyrum, AND there have been so many breaks between Presiding Patriarch's?????

This is why it is understandable to many that that the church or any of it's polygamist breakoffs do not hold sealing power or the ability to grant a promise of eternal life embodied in the second anointing ordinance, though the church and many fundy groups still fame claim and perform today.

They cannot hold that which they do not understand or have validly passed along in Patriarchal order father to son.

It needs re-stored back to the earth. That which was at the beginning with our Patriarchal Fathers. We need to turn our hearts to them. We need to learn what they had, and seek with all our might to get it back. They need us. We need them.

Adam, Seth, Enos and his sons had it on the earth for a time up until Enoch (whose righteous city was removed) and Shem/Melchizedek who made it through the flood in hopes to bring back the order back to the earth after a major cleansing.

Cain killed Able, hoping that this honorable office would fall upon him, instead of Able. That barred him and his seed from holding it.

It was restored to Abraham, after becoming a prophet, after passing some tests of loyalty, obedience and with much sacrifice, was able to get back what the first line of Patriarch's had on the earth.
The last man to hold it was Ephraim, son of Joseph, son of Jacob/Israel, son of Isaac, son of Abraham.

Pharaoh fame claimed this Patriarchal Priesthood Order. He enslaved the last people who should have maintained what their Father Abraham brought back. He built temples, focused a lot on resurrection which the Patriarchal Priesthood does have a lot to deal with, and intended it to go through to his first born son. Until God proved he was with Moses and God took that son in a final plague. Pharaoh learned the hard way that he did not hold it.

God sent Moses the prophet to free the Hebrews/Israelites from Egyptian slavery, performed amazing miracles to free them, was trying to get them to a promised land where they too could get back the Patriarchal order that had been lost. After being in the wilderness for 40 years, they never make it to that land, and Moses is taken from them, and they are left to themselves.

God sent many prophets trying to turn them back to the original gospel and priesthood order of things. Even Christ Himself came to return things, and was killed. There was not enough success and time to return them to the order of old and re-gather them into a Patriarchal Family of God.

Maybe Lehi in the Book of Mormon was able to restore it and it descended through his sons for a time. Another thing to ponder. Maybe what the sealed portion speaks more of?

God tried to restore it back to the seed of Abraham and Sons, who are also the seed of Adam, in the last days with Joseph Smith Sr. and his son Hyrum Smith, with Joseph Smith the prophet to facilitate and prepare his Father and elder brother to become such. The Lord was trying to get the Patriarchal Priesthood Order that was had at first into their hands, but with the contention, lack of sacrifice by focusing on and finishing the temple, a Patriarchal Family and order was never fully restored. Hyrum was put into the office, but never had a chance to magnify it. These two brothers were taken at the same time, without naming heirs or successors. It has been put on pause.

God is going to restore that which was at first, and He is going to restore it using one like unto Moses, from the house or descendents of those who held it last. Ephraim was supposed to bring it back. They will. But it is going to come from a different part of the "house" than is expected by the majority of modern Mormons today. I am sure hell will do everything to prevent it. Hell has succeeded in times past. Let us not let that happen again.

So, who will?

Go and do the works of Abraham (seek the greater knowledge and things that he had), and bring back that which he was able to bring back to the earth. You first need: Baptism. Teachings of prophets current and past. Baptism of Fire. Revelation. Some priesthood received or acknowledged. Calling and election. Sealing power. Etc. These things can still be had, despite lacking a Presiding Patriarch and having a full Patriarchal Family gathered on earth. It has happened before in Biblical and Book of Mormon history during Patriarchal breaks, it can happen again.

Then Zion.

Then the millennium.

 Where will you be found in the near future?





Matthew 23:37

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!






D&C 10:65 For, behold, I will gather them as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, if they will not harden their hearts;


Doctrine and Covenants 43:24

O, ye nations of the earth, how often would I have gathered you together as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, but ye would not!

Luke 13:34

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee; how often would I have gathered thy children together, as a hen doth gather her brood under her wings, and ye would not!

3 Nephi 10:4-5

O ye people of these great cities which have fallen, who are descendants of Jacob, yea, who are of the house of Israel, how oft have I gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and have nourished you.

And again, how oft would I have gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, yea, O ye people of the house of Israel, who have fallen; yea, O ye people of the house of Israel, ye that dwell at Jerusalem, as ye that have fallen; yea, how oft would I have gathered you as a hen gathereth her chickens, and ye would not.


3 Nephi 10:6

O ye house of Israel whom I have spared, how oft will I gather you as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, if ye will repent and return unto me with full purpose of heart.

Doctrine and Covenants 29:2

Who will gather his people even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, even as many as will hearken to my voice and humble themselves before me, and call upon me in mighty prayer.

 

Thursday, April 16, 2015

Separation of the Wheat from the Tares

 


http://denversnuffer.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Plural-Marriage.pdf

Why the church and fundamentalism has been out of order since Joseph Smith... only the hard hearted and prideful will fail to give it all a proper hearing. Hope that isn't the case with any of the people I know or are acquainted with. Even the mock up or type and shadow of the real thing that was in the church (The Head Patriarch) came to an end. Read the entire article linked to above.

Quoting from the pdf posted above:

"Now even the imitation of it has come to an end, because there is no perpetuation “in honorable remembrance” of the descendants of Hyrum Smith124 occupying the office of Patriar...ch to the Church. There have been many signs given by God that He was about to do something new from the time of the death of Joseph Smith till today. All that was left at the end was for a witness to be appointed, to come to declare, “Now it has come to an end.” In the last talked in the 10 lecture series I said, the witness has now come, and I am he. It has come to an end with something new now begun. One of the signs of it having come to an end was the passing of Eldred Smith. There are many other signs given if you look for them. You can see them all along the way, from the condemnation in 1832, to the expulsion from Missouri, the forced exodus from Nauvoo, the suffering during and following the exodus, the afflictions, judgments and wrath of God at the Saints, their pride, lying, deceit, hypocrisy, murders, priestcrafts, and whoredoms (as Christ foretold), inquisitorial abuse of the population129 once isolated from the US, mass-murders, contradictions in “fundamental” teachings, changes to the ordinances including the temple rites, quest for popularity and centrally-controlled, tightly correlated rejection of teachings—the history of the LDS Church has been a long, downward path. It has walked away from the light, and increasingly embraced darkness. Its members are now ruled by traditions that contradict the scriptures and commandments of God. They are asleep and cannot be awakened. God will now do something new and leave them to make their own way. 

  Emma Smith, Sidney Rigdon and William Marks said without Joseph Smith there was no church. They were right. As soon as Joseph Smith was out of the picture there was a complete overthrow of the church by the quorum of the 12. The quorum of the 12 substituted themselves in the place of the equal distribution of power in the church established by revelation."

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